Ep 37 - Are Movie Theatres Good EV Charging Locations?

Dave Stein joins us to talk about the Portage MI Celebrations Cinema whose EV chargers were taken off-line.  Larry has been arguing that they should be reactivated, but we take a deep dive whether that makes sense.  

What makes a good Level 2 charging location?  What's the business case for the site host?  

Show Notes and Links

• Celebration Cinema Crossroads, Portage, MI - https://www.celebrationcinema.com/cinemas/celebration-cinema-crossroads
• Loss Aversion Behavior - https://www.behavioraleconomics.com/resources/mini-encyclopedia-of-be/loss-aversion/
• ChargePoint - https://www.chargepoint.com/
• Blink Charging - https://blinkcharging.com/
• Orange Charger - https://www.orangecharger.com/
• Orange Charger review - https://youtu.be/k5ca_JcHUY0?si=oTI2gzxzi2kaAIy4
• Red E Charge - https://www.redecharge.com/
• Electrify America:
•   https://www.electrifyamerica.com/
•   EA location at Sam’s Club Portage, MI -https://www.plugshare.com/location/171112
• Consumers Energy
•   Residential EV Charging - https://www.consumersenergy.com/ev
•   Commercial EV Charging - https://www.consumersenergy.com/business/products-and-services/electric-vehicle-support-for-business
• Adopt a Charger - https://adoptacharger.org/
• Grizzl-E chargers - https://grizzl-e.com/products/grizzl-e-classic/
• Grizzl-E Duo - https://grizzl-e.com/products/grizzl-e-duo/
• Enphase (former Clipper Creek) EV chargers - https://enphase.com/store/ev-chargers
• Charlotte MI Community Library EV charger - https://www.plugshare.com/location/322556
• LEED building certification - https://www.usgbc.org/leed

Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 1:36 Dave and Larry meeting background
• 2:23 Celebration Cinema EV chargers history
• 4:09 Business model for movie theater?
• 6:53 Business model for Level 2 charging in general
• 8:05 What makes the Portage movie theater location special?
• 9:31 Location of chargers in parking lot
• 11:12 Dave’s use case for movie theater chargers
• 12:57 Today’s EVs have more range - still a valid business case today?
• 14:41 Showing EVs charging normalizes the behavior
• 16:03 Why not put chargers at the mall?
• 17:37 Would you be willing to pay more to charge in public?
• 21:00 For a business, what’s the elevator pitch for EV charging?
• 21:58 Portage MI has put in more EV charging recently
• 24:13 Who is the main user for this location?
• 26:45 Technical solutions for public Level 2 hosts
• 36:55 What if the city of Portage took over the cinema chargers?
• 38:28 Who pays for free public charging?
• 38:57 Adopt a Charger
• 41:01 If you’re giving away electricity, use non-networked chargers
• 47:16 Wrap Up and Summary